Monday, November 30, 2015

Muslims are over-writing US Laws with Shariah law?

They aren't "passing" laws into effect (which is the joke with this whole thing). The only way the laws of the Muslims can be used-- is as a cultural influence. Take the Anti-Gay movement as an example of how the Bible would be used.

The Anti-Gay Christians presented verses of Hebrew law to the lawmakers, demonstrating in this manner that being gay was an abomination to the Christian and Hebrew God. -- this common occurrence is known as submitting cultural influence to the court.



Angelina Jolie Visiting with Syrian Refugees. Her report of the experience was much different than Carson on his return

Scripture from the Bible is a cultural influence -- and a strong one in our population -- which a judge or lawmaker takes into account when making a decision. If the U.S. or State Laws are ambiguous or without president then such influences are used to help make the decision. They are also used to present our laws to the various cultures here in our country so that they feel familiar as well as helping comprehension and acceptance.

Imagine you are arrested in a country much different than ours, say Congo or North Korea or Madagascar, for a charge you didn't understand, then brought to a court you could not comprehend, even if the appointed interpreter could be understood.

This makes perfect sense, because the laws of the land are suppose to support and serve the citizens of the land. Anyone else in our population could have presented supporting or non-supportive cultural text as well. For example, members of the gay LGB community could have countered this presentation of the Hebrew text by pointing out the use, and translation of the Torah was in error, as well as being misused as a persecution -- when the primary purpose was to accept by not to engage.

The word which the KJB translates terribly is toevot. Toevot and the plural form are used 103 times in the Hebrew bible. In the Torah, the primary toevah is avodah zaraforeign forms of worship, and most other toevot flow from it..

 Deuteronomy 18:9-12 makes this quite clear:
When you come into the land that YHVH your God gives you, do not learn to do the toevot of those nations. Do not find among you one who passes his son or daughter through the fire; or a magician; or a fortune teller, charmer, or witch… because all who do these things are toevah to YHVH and because of these toevot YHVH your God is driving them out before you.
An abomination is not described there. An abomination is like five legged babies and two headed giraffes and Ben Carson reality. Those are abominations.
Deuteronomy 7:25-26 commands:
[Y]ou shall burn the statues of their gods in fire. Do not desire the silver and gold on them and take it onto yourself, else you be snared by it, for it is a toevah to YHVH your God. And you shall not bring toevah to your home
Deut. 12:31, 13:14, 17:4, 27:15, and 32:16 further identify idolatry, child sacrifice, witchcraft, and other “foreign” practices as toevah, and Deut. 20:18 says that avoiding toevah justifies the genocide of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanaites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. So, toevah is serious, but it is serious as a particular class of cultic offense: a transgression of national boundary. It is certainly not “abomination.

Similarly, the Books of Kings and Chronicles use toevah nine times to refer to acts that other nations did in the Land of Israel:
  • 1 Kings 14:24 (general);
  • 2 Kings 16:3 (child sacrifice);
  • 2 Kings 21:2 and 2 Kings 21:11 (idolatry);
  • 2 Chron. 28:3 (child sacrifice);
  • 2 Chron. 33:2 (idolatry);
  • 2 Chron. 34:33, 36:8, and 36:14 (general). (Ezra 9:1, 9:11, and 9:14 use the word in exactly the same way.)
In all these cases, toevah refers to a foreign cultic behavior wrongly practiced by Israelites and Israelite kings.

And likewise, the prophet Ezekiel uses the term toevah a record-setting 39 times to refer to idolatry (Ez. 5:11, 6:9, 6:11, 7:20, 14:6, 20:7-8, 22:2, 44:6-7, 44:13), usury (Ez. 18:13), haughtiness and pride (Ez. 16:47-50; the “Sin of Sodom”—more on that in a future article), heterosexual adultery (Ez. 22:11, 33:26), and violence (Ez. 33:26), as well as a general term for foreign acts (Ez. 16:51) or transgression, often in a cultic context (Ez. 5:9, 7:3-4, 7:8-9, 9:4, 11:18, 11:21, 12:16, 16:2, 16:43, 18:24, 20:4, 33:29, 36:31).

In one extended passage (Ez. 8:1-18), Ezekiel is taken on a visionary tour of toevot, all of which have to do with idolatry and each, Ezekiel says, is worse than the previous one, beginning with an image on the door of the gate of Jerusalem, to idols and imagery in a house of worship, to women weeping for the god Tammuz,* to men worshiping the sun within the Temple itself. This extended passage, with six mentions of toevah, links the term in every instance with avodah zara, or idolatry.

Abomination etymologically means to regard as an ill omen, and divining by omens is on this very list of toevot! Colloquially, it is used to described something which is morally reprehensible, but that hardly fits the term toeva as it is used in the Torah.

It first appears in Genesis and Exodus as a way of describing the cultural differences between Egyptians and Hebrews. "The toeva of Egypt" is used to describe breaking bread with Hebrews, the profession of shepherding (although Egypt itself has vast flocks) and the Hebrew sacrificial rites. Explaining the last of these (Exod. 8:22), Rabbi S.R. Hirsch writes:
Perhaps this is only a diplomatic term, showing consideration for Pharaoh, denoting what the Egyptians regard more than anything.

I like “taboo” as a replacement. It conveys the culturally relative nature of toevah, has some connotation of foreignness, and rightly aligns the taboo against homosexuality with taboos against, for example, eating unkosher food. It also has a vaguely archaic feel, which it should. But "abomination" is wrong, and every Jewish/Hebrew language expert in the world agrees.

So, Cultural Influence, can be submitted and also Argued against in a court of law. Generally speaking, Criminal Courts do not accept cultural influence to be submitted, or if they do, they give very little value to the submission.You find the use in Civil courts much more often, espicailly when you have a matter involving both sides of the argument being from the same culture, like two devote Jews, or two Muslims, or two Japanese people engaged in a business dispute.

So, while these Foreign Laws are used in this manner,  they do not supersede nor change or give a different set of laws or punishments or anything else -- that would be silly as well. Also, if you were not a follower of Islam, the court would not accept Shariah law as a cultural influence for your case, even if you asked for it to be admitted. Likewise, even though the Muslim accepts the validity of the Torah, they would be hard pressed to convince a judge to include passages from that text as their own cultural influence.
"The Torah was given only to manna eaters."

Despite this perfectly valid, and nonthreatening use of the Qu'arn as a cultural influence, an anti-Muslim, Christian campaign has been pushing out dis-Information that Muslims are over-writing U.S. Laws with Shariah law in an effort to Take Over Our Government -- I know,  I know it;s stupid, but you would not believe how many people are falling for this, and they're Freaking Out. 


This campaign has been successful in getting 15 States to pass laws against the use of any Foreign Laws. The bills all cite “foreign laws” because two federal courts have ruled  that singling out Shariah — as Oklahoma voters originally did in 2010 — is unconstitutional.

However, I'm laughing -- because they are screwing themselves. And it is just like them to do so. They don't bother to read, or understand - and in fact they are proud of how ignorant they are of things like Muslims, or the Koran or even the Constitution. In fact, they have proven over and over throughout history, both past and present, that they would rather commit murder, than to pick up a fricken book and find out what the hell they are talking about. Personally I'm tired of it -- I'm tired of them claiming they are conservatives. I'm tired of them claiming they are patriotic. They are not patriotic they hate America, they hate freedom of speech, they hate the freedom of religion, hell -- they hate Freedom.

The Bible, no matter how you feel about it, is a foreign law book.










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